Paradigm U. Podcast
Paradigm U. Podcast
147: Finding Balance and Navigating Life's Complexities
Ever felt the weight of the world on your shoulders, and longed for someone to share in your journey? We've all been there, and that's exactly why I, Lisa, and my co-host April, decided to get real and personal about our battles with stress and burnout. We share our experiences with stepping out of our comfort zones and learning to appreciate the small moments of peace in our daily lives. We also discuss the importance of being present, understanding our individual needs, and the impact of having someone in our lives who challenges us and keeps us honest.
Have you ever considered how your weekend plans could be a tool for finding balance in your life? April and I delve into how we utilize our free time for reflection and exploration of our emotions. We also discuss the importance of vacations, and I share my exciting 'Don't Go Chasing Waterfalls' roadmap adventure. But our conversation doesn't stop at just vacations, we also tackle the enigmatic Mercury Retrograde. From disrupting our communication and travel plans to meddling with our sleep patterns, we share our insights on how to navigate these tumultuous times, with a unique perspective on how homeopathy can help with sleep issues.
As we wrap up our friendly chat, we delve into our personal strategies for dealing with stress, and how we find restorative moments in our daily lives. Highlighting the significance of stepping out of our comfort zones, we share how running and walking serve as our go-to stress busters. Finally, we leave you with a few words of encouragement to make an impact in your lives and be your true selves. Tune in for an enlightening conversation as we navigate the complexities of life, one day at a time. Trust us, you won't want to miss this.
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Welcome to the Paradigm.
Speaker 2:New Podcast. Hello, this is Lisa Sainowski, co-host of the Paradigm New Podcast, and in this week's episode I get April to step way outside of her comfort zone, and in doing so, we have a whole lot of fun banter and takeaways waiting for you. So go ahead and pull up a chair, sit down with us and enjoy our friendly banter as you get to equally explore what's coming up for you in your life.
Speaker 3:You're listening to the Paradigm New Podcast. You're about to start transforming your life by growing your mind and expanding your paradigms. Here we'll cover real life topics, just like the stuff you'd share with a good friend. This podcast will serve up topics that weigh on our hearts and keep us up at night, Whether it's navigating parenthood and becoming an adult, or wayfinding, personal development, marriage and money. You, my friend, are in the right place. I'm glad you're here.
Speaker 4:Okay, we are back for another weekly podcast. Welcome to the Paradigm New Podcast. Today you get to hear from Lisa and I, and we are going to do something that is totally out of my comfort zone. We're going to let Lisa take the lead on this one.
Speaker 2:I wish y'all could have saw her face when I even brought up this idea of this podcast today. First of all, it is so great to be back with you, apes. So today's outside April's comfort zone is simply a conversation amongst friends. It's going to be great. We get caught up in the hustle and bustle of life as moms as the beginning of the school year is upon us, the stress and the inevitable burnout can be real.
Speaker 2:So we thought, especially after the launch of the first podcast, we've been getting a lot of questions about our relationship and what we do every day or how we talk. It was. I got some really fun questions and I thought okay, well, pretend that you're sitting down at this table with us and we're just going to chat. We're just going to have a friendly chat. And this is so outside of April's comfort zone, because April is a massive achiever and a massive doer. So learning how to undo and simply be, which is part of all of our journeys, of course, but April's next level, with doing y'all. You didn't know that yet and I don't know what that look is oh yeah, I'm totally sweating.
Speaker 4:Oh good, Okay great, my back is going, neck is hot. Maybe it's hormones, maybe it's just the discomfort, but yes, I've actually gotten this message a couple times this week. I've gotten the hint that I need to just be present and just chill and actually enjoy life instead of constantly being in the doing and I tend to be a doer, as Lisa said. Interestingly, when Lisa said we should have a conversation and riff back and forth and allow people to get to know us, I was like what, what, what, what should I say? But I will say this one thing and then I will at least take the lead, because this is out of my comfort zone. I went to a yoga class earlier this week and I walked away from that class just angry. I was so upset and just so feeling lost that I asked the instructor after class if she could call me, and so she called me later that day and she's like what's going on? And I obviously she knows nothing about what she's walking into.
Speaker 3:And I said I know, right.
Speaker 4:You don't know what you're going to talk with April about most days if you talk to me.
Speaker 4:But I said you know I went to class and I felt really lost in my yoga practice lately because I have had a shoulder injury and when I go to a lot of my favorite classes that used to be in the past I can't do some of the things because I can feel the pain and I know that I shouldn't push, but I tend to just want to overdo and just keep pushing, even though it's painful and I'm feeling lost in my yoga practice.
Speaker 4:But equally, I know that yoga is what gets me centered and takes good care of me. And she said April, you are a go-getter in every area of life. I've watched you in yoga for years and anytime I give a modification like try this, you will fall flat on your face just trying it. And she's like but when what your practice is right now is to allow yourself to not have to do and just be, she's like just breathe and just be present and to listen to whatever it is that you need, because what I need is different than the person next to me on a different mat.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 4:You guys, I started like getting choked up and I just was like celebrating the, the reality that she's spot on, but also like I should have known that because I'm a go-getter.
Speaker 2:Did you then go home to like make yourself a whole strategy and list of all the things to not do?
Speaker 4:No, I just I decided to just bask in it and be grateful that I had a yoga instructor who was willing to be that honest and just speak from the, the cuff you know just this is what her observations are. And then I decided the next day to go to another yoga class with somebody different and to just have that in the back of my head and I had permacrylate that entire next class because I decided to just be in the moment and just to be really, really happy. Wow, yeah it was.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's huge for you, congratulations, thank you. You said something you said actually reminds me a lot of our relationship and friendship, because, first of all, that yoga instructor high fives to her. I just I want to hug her. That's sage advice and radically intuitive. But also being willing to be the voice of challenge in someone's life, man, that's an interesting role, because I'm here to tell you and I'm sure you've experienced this too but a lot of people don't want to be challenged, they just want their worldview, they want to complain, they want to stay in their circumstance, they want their shoulder to keep hurting but to still do every single yoga pose. And so you've always challenged me, you always asked me questions and made me actually ponder and think. In fact, part of the impetus for our conversation today was because, even just on our last podcast episode, I learned something about you and I thought we have these deep, very deep conversations constantly as friends and there's still so much I don't know. Bam.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's the cool part, right, you get to peel back different parts of the layer of the onion Seriously, and I think if you're willing to ask the hard questions and go deep with somebody, then you can learn a lot of things. But sometimes that means that we're missing the basic stuff.
Speaker 2:Ooh for sure, like hydration Do we got a timer coming up April, oh gosh yeah.
Speaker 4:But let's just, you guys can't see this, but I'm going to show Lisa that's fair. I got my version of that energy drink. Yeah, I have from anybody who knows me really well that one of my biggest hurdles is getting off of caffeine and I live on energy drinks. And I embraced energy drinks a couple of years ago when I gave up soda because I said it was a habit and addiction. It was huge. I was consuming a lot of sugar but interestingly, I just swapped it out with energy drinks and I told myself that's better. I don't think it's actually better, but if you say I don't, want to talk about energy soda.
Speaker 2:There you go, there you go, one step at a time. Next up is going to be like the healthy, healthiest biohacking versions of energy drinks.
Speaker 4:Yeah, Lisa gets me into those sometimes. If you want biohacking advice, that would be Lisa. If you want to talk to somebody about habits that burn you out, talk to April.
Speaker 2:Well, yes, I think we both are good at both.
Speaker 4:I'm sure, yeah, so Lisa wanted to introduce listeners to both of us in our relationships. So, lisa, what would you like to talk about today?
Speaker 2:Oh, what I like to talk about today. I have an empty house. I have no husband and no kids in my house for the entire weekend. Do you know how rare? I don't know if this I'm trying, I'm literally racking my brain. I don't know if this has ever happened before, maybe once before. And so it's the quiet that you always want, and then the quiet that you also loathe as a mom. I don't know about you, but I'm like I just want some peace and quiet. And then the second the kids are gone. I'm like I just want to be with my kid Yep.
Speaker 4:What is that? We do the same thing.
Speaker 2:Yes. So no, it's been. It's been great. I'm learning a lot about myself in the season of life, being in a house alone, and what I'm choosing to do and, most importantly, what I'm choosing not to do. It's been very fun.
Speaker 4:Well, you can't just leave us hanging. What are you doing and what are you not doing? Because now I just want to be a fly on the wall and be like what's Lisa doing with all this free time?
Speaker 2:Right, I want to say I knocked out all these amazing trainings and I've been doing yoga, I'm meditating and I want to be able to say all that. You know what I did? I did some online home day core shopping because I got a party coming up for my son and I don't know about you, but before a party I kind of go into, I want to fix certain things in my house mode or just upgrade them rather. So I did that. But then I did something that I affectionately refer to as puttering just kind of walk around my house and put things away or reorganize things. I really like to organize things. So I did a little bit of that.
Speaker 2:And then I did a whole lot of binging TV, which I don't even really like. So I knew my body just needed, my body and mind almost just needed a total time out. So that was interesting and very cleansing, because I was watching a show called the mentalist. Have you ever watched that show? No, I was going to ask what are you watching, Girl? Okay, so it's an older show and it's because my, my, our family really likes psych. Psych is a an older show as well, but it's a detective murder mystery kind of comedy. It's actually very, very funny. In my opinion. Mentalist is a is a riff on that, except that one is a little little bit darker, and so it was nice to be able to cry and kind of move the emotions out. I don't know about you, but sometimes I need to just cry. And now I have a whole weekend scheduled of fabulous work. So yeah, getting back into work with you and mapping things out and copywriting and all the fun stuff, oh, wait, are you giving a hint to what we're doing?
Speaker 4:No, Okay. I was like, did you just give that away on a?
Speaker 2:podcast. No, I would never. I would never. This is all censored. Can we just edit that out?
Speaker 4:Lucky for you, I have very little patience when it comes to editing, so no, it's in, oh good.
Speaker 2:Copywriting is a very general term. Okay, Social media posts, newsletters, you know all those things we're doing some fun stuff that listeners get the first look at, apparently.
Speaker 4:Well, whoever's listening to this episode. You guys get to know well before anyone else. I think that's very cool, thanks, what about you?
Speaker 2:What are you up to this fabulous Friday? Oh, that's a good question.
Speaker 4:Yes, we are recording on a Friday. I'm navigating a lot of emotional stuff. So we were on vacation last week and came back to a lot of chaos, and if you can relate to this question of when you go on a vacation, then you come back to a lot like almost like a mountain of stuff You're like was that vacation actually worth it? Yeah, this past week has been playing catch up and the interesting thing is, when I planned my summer, I planned a vacation a week back to get caught up and then another vacation right before the kids went back to school, and so I had to have this like heart to heart with my husband and say do we actually want to take the second vacation or will it make all of us crazy? And it was going to be a. It was a waterfall hunting trip that we were going on and a good friend of ours had given us what he affectionately calls the don't go chasing roadmap. I love that.
Speaker 4:I love that roadmap yeah, he's got it saved as a Google trip and he sent me the whole waterfall vacation and so we were going to follow his route, which I think it. I think he said, is it Bob Dylan? He had taken this route and wrote a lot of their songs that are very like well known songs, and so we were going to go do this. And then we had a heart to heart with our whole family and we're like we can't do this, this is too much. We we have a handful of different businesses that are all experiencing growth at the same time, and it was just irresponsible. So we played, grown up and realized that we couldn't go on vacation.
Speaker 4:How are the kids? Well, we asked the kids we're like do you guys care? And they're like that's cool. We have a bajillion waterfalls in our neighbor, like in, we live in Wisconsin, so in the Midwest it's you can get a waterfall within 20 minutes. So they're like we'll just go to a different waterfall and I'm like that's cool that they can pivot and they're not attached. So then I asked them what do you guys want to do? And you know, I thought they would want these like elaborate, amazing things to do before school starts and they all have really simple things. Oh, we are going to do really simple like like what. Oh well, my son wanted to go golfing Awesome. My youngest wants to go to a splash pad, which, interestingly, I realize we've not gone to a splash pad all year, which, in my mind, is not an earth shattering thing and probably why we've never done it this year. And my oldest just wants to go to this like theme park, that is, like the old school theme park.
Speaker 2:Oh, I know what you're talking about.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they're, like you know, just really old school, like you're like do you guys carry insurance on that, Like on that ride, that's right, I'm not really going to watch my kids go in there.
Speaker 2:Hold on.
Speaker 4:I'm sure we all have health insurance before we go on that one.
Speaker 2:Let's just say we're homeless.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so we're going to just do that. And then the other part that I am really excited about is I aspire to be a hippie gardener and farmer, and so I'm going to go play with my honeybees this weekend and my I've been growing lavender and lemongrass and it is all in full swing, and it's so cool when you pull off a piece of lemongrass and you like crush it in your hands. Yeah, awesome, and I had no idea. So I'm like going to Google what to do with it?
Speaker 2:Oh, you know, make like some tea or something. What are you going to do with it all?
Speaker 4:We make a lot of tea with the lavender, but I've never done anything with the lemongrass, so we'll see. Cool, that's the game plan.
Speaker 2:I love it. See, you got to have a plan. That's the game plan. But you know what I love about that is you role model to your kids. Boundaries, you're willing to step up and say no to certain things by saying yes to you, and your kids already are just so resilient, and I think it equally role models what we're discussing today of of there's ease in just simply being present and asking the other person what do you want to do? And just we really can over complicate things as parents. Yeah, I know I can. Like you have to have these major grand experiences and really kids want to be loved and they want some attention and to be heard like anybody else.
Speaker 4:Right, yeah, you know when you said that, the piece about boundaries, it's interesting. I had a client yesterday who was talking about how they are struggling with establishing boundaries and how everybody's priority list seems to be taking over their priority list. And so actually, yeah, so when you're saying that I'm like, yes, I'm hearing that a lot this week. And the other thing that you said that I'm hearing a lot from people actually I think I've heard it every day this week from a client is this idea of the hard questions?
Speaker 1:So when you're talking about the yoga instructor who like?
Speaker 4:yeah out on some stuff. I didn't love that experience in being vulnerable, but what she gave me is a gift of that awareness that I was missing that blind spot. But it's really fun when I can do that for other people and I've had a lot of those this week that are just saying thank you for asking me a hard question, because I had that idea or thought in my head but I couldn't actually put it to words or one of them.
Speaker 4:She was saying she's like I just I'm glad you asked those hard questions, because it feels more like a therapy session and you were asking me the things that would push me to that next level, which most people just want to be gentle and ask the hard questions. So sometimes it's hard to ask those hard questions or to call things out, but I think that it's a really cool gift if you have somebody in your world that could do that and I know absolutely no.
Speaker 2:I think that's really great.
Speaker 2:And one of the things I started to say, even in my coaching sessions, is is it okay for me to ask you a tough question right now? In other words, are you open to it? And I've yet to hear anyone say no. And then when I do, it's pretty fun. But man, being on the receiving end of that question to your point, I remember sitting in the seat and a coach looking at me and she just stared me down a mentor of mine and I thought, oh, just from the look, I was a little unprepared. And she ends up saying a curse word bowl, fill in the blank. And she just looks at me Nope, that's not your reason, what's the real reason? And I thought, oh, and so digging deep.
Speaker 2:And what's funny to your point is I was able to bring that to a couple of sessions later and everyone you know. So be willing to ask yourself the hard questions for those listening and be willing to be that friend and equally cloud the conversation. Right, because some people aren't in the mood for that question, some people don't want to be challenged. Maybe it's just that particular moment, maybe it's just ever, but yeah, hooray for hard questions. I'm forgetting outside of comfort zones, apes, that's you today. How are you feeling?
Speaker 4:I'm still sweaty, seriously Maybe it is hormonal, I don't know. You're almost cold too. I do run cold. I actually had my space heater on earlier today. With the air conditioning on All summer long I tend to live in sweaters and pants and space heaters in my house, but yesterday was what? 100 and some degree. Oh, four degrees, so maybe yeah, maybe it's not hormones, although I do feel like I'm navigating some grown-up adventures these days.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh yeah, for sure. I just read that having itchy hands and feet is hormonal related. Really yeah, because I had a woman reach out to me about that and I thought, oh, that's interesting, all these fun little tips and takeaways Very interesting.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, I've had a lot of people. I'd be interested actually to know what you think about this and for listeners, I feel like, if you're like, what are you guys even talking about? I just am really curious to hear what Lisa says about this one. So I'm going to ask in a moment. I've heard some people say in the last week or so that they feel like the energy is really funky. They've all. I've had people text me or different people in my life, or even a couple clients. Actually, the phone call I had right before this they were saying to something feel off this week and I said, well, I thought it was just me because I was getting back from vacation. But I've heard it so many times that I'm like I wonder if there's something energetically and I'm wondering do you know anything about that?
Speaker 2:I know a little bit. Yeah, first of all, I love that people are making those connections, because I think so often we can just run a script in our head that I'm just tired, I haven't slept well, school's coming up, I'm stressed, but really there's bigger energy in our world and universe. The energies are pretty intense right now just from solar flares and other things happening, but we also just got into Mercury retrograde.
Speaker 4:Oh, no way, yes Was it.
Speaker 2:Today it was the 23rd is when it kicked off. No way, and I, so some of your people that you were maybe connected to if they started feeling off a few days before. That's how I am. I'm always early with Mercury and then early on the back end too, like I get out of it sooner but I also get into it sooner. So I would. For all of those that believe are feeling an energetic misalignment right now, it could possibly be Mercury retrograde. I tend to not sleep well during it, so that's also a belief structure that I need to equally work through. Right, I know these things, but equally, last night I was like no one's in my house. It's quiet. Why am I not sleeping?
Speaker 4:No, interesting, okay. So yeah, I do need you to explain for people who are unfamiliar with what Mercury and retrograde is. I do want you to explain that. And then I also needed to share the sleeping part. For the last few days of this week, I haven't been able to sleep. I thought that it was hormonal, and this is where I think I'm in a weird dance, because I'm learning a lot about my hormones and I'm also learning about the energies and just the universe in general and how those two things dance with me. And so sometimes I'm like I have no clue, but I hadn't been sleeping in, so I was joking. The other day I'm like I'm gonna take a melatonin and a magnesium.
Speaker 2:Have you ever tried the homeopathy, the Born brand? That's the only thing that works for me. Yeah, I would check those out and we can maybe link just to the website in the show notes, but those are available. Amazon Whole Foods, a co-op close to you, and it helps us. Yeah, there's different versions of it. So it really depends on your unique systems and what potentially is blocking you. So it's a moment in time to read through the. They're called remedies. Each individual quote unquote medicines. But it's just homeopathy. Just works with your body's natural chemistry. They're all herbs and natural things and you take them. They're little pellets, but the way you select which one works best for you is you just read the little descriptor. So, for example, the one I take for sleep is because my mind will spin a lot at night and it's so. It calms the mind. But there's other sleep aids for only thinking of work or other things. So I would check those out Super interesting.
Speaker 2:Okay, can you?
Speaker 4:explain what Mercury in retrograde is. Just in case my mom is listening to this podcast and she's like what are you? Two yo-yos talking about.
Speaker 2:Yes, so Mercury is a period of about three weeks and Mercury is known as the planet of communication and it appears to be rotating backwards due to its proximity to Earth, but it's actually not doing that, so it's an optical illusion and what that does energetically is it tends to mess up our communication.
Speaker 2:So if you're right now in a season of life or you notice like man, I'm getting in more fights with my work colleague or my partner or my kids or my kid's teacher, whomever it could possibly be because the energies right now are off, If you can't log into Zoom or anything like I've been having challenges with, that's a reason. There are people that go so far as to say you should not travel during Mercury retrograde, because it tends to be when most like airline flights get canceled or delayed and things like that as well. So I just I know it's super crazy, and so I just encourage people to look into it and just map out when the dates are and pay attention to how you're feeling. I know like I don't sleep well. My son doesn't sleep well, but my daughter sleeps great, so that's also kind of interesting to take into account.
Speaker 4:Cool things to notice and then to teach them when they're older so that they have that awareness right.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Hey guys, this is what I noticed when you were a kid. You know it's so interesting. You say that earlier this week I had an employee whose computer literally just wouldn't even turn on. And they work from home and they called and they're like, seriously, it just won't even turn on. This was a brand new computer, like a month old, and I'm like you've got to be kidding me.
Speaker 4:And then today I had a meeting this morning and my computer just froze and the funny part was I didn't realize it because I was in a Word document and so I was like, well, I was in like a Google Docs but I was like just typing and that part was working. But I kept glancing down because I knew I had a meeting in a few minutes. The clock never changed. And then I didn't realize that everything else had frozen, until I went to click on another thing and all the other windows were all frozen. It was the strangest thing. And then I had to like power down and I couldn't figure out how to power. It was just, it was funny, just a glitch in the matrix.
Speaker 2:It's kind of what it is. That's so fascinating.
Speaker 4:Okay, so if you're listening to this podcast, we are recording this on Friday, the 25th, so this podcast will come out in a couple of days, but that means that pay attention to where your life was last week in particular, and if you notice any of that, but you said it's a three week window, so potentially, as this podcast comes out, people may be experiencing it still.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure it's supposed to go through, I believe, the date of September 15th so cool, yeah, and so like traffic may be more intense, there might be just more misunderstandings, and some people go so far as to say don't sign contracts or start anything really big and new during this timeframe. So it is something to just explore and to create a belief system and pattern that works for you.
Speaker 4:So cool, yeah. So I feel like that kind of stuff can stress people out, myself included. So I just have to share with you and for anybody who's listening? Well, if you're stressed like I, get stressed out if my computer and I can't log in or something is working.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:Like I was on a phone call earlier today and it kept hanging like clicking out yeah, and I actually was joking, I was like I wonder if it's something with Mercury, but never took the time to actually look at all. I know enough to just talk a good game. You caught me, but I actually am not in a practice of looking it up and actually knowing when it happens. But I do want to tell you this because I don't know if I shared this with you. But when I get stressed, I'd love to hear what you do when you get stressed.
Speaker 4:But when I get stressed lately what I've been doing is I've been popping in a gratitude hypnosis track in my ears Because I've realized that when I get stressed I go into all of these habits that if you've listened to the podcast for a while, you probably heard my talk about my red flags or habits or things that don't serve me. But what I've been trying to do is catch that really soon and what I've found is that if I focus on being grateful that it helps me to overcome that quicker. And so Leigh I got to tell you this, going into our vacation the whole week before I was feeling a little stressed, trying to get everything done before we left, so I chose to listen to a gratitude is the attitude podcast. I'm not podcast hypnosis track. Every day leading up to it I seriously was having the best days ever.
Speaker 2:You were. I remember talking to you. I was like, wow, this is like a magical vacation Even, yeah.
Speaker 4:So we were with our extended family and everybody kept saying you're in a really good mood and I'm like holy crap, who is that person? Yeah, Beyond, just over friendly and like golden retriever who just wants to tackle, hug you. I couldn't stop smiling and I found that to be really helpful, and so the other day I was feeling stressed again, so I popped it in again and it just shifted it. It's so cool. What do you do when you're stressed?
Speaker 2:Well, first of all, awareness is always what's going to make you find what works for you, right, and then testing and figuring out what does and then actually doing it. And I hope we have a podcast sometime about habits, right, Because habit coaching is such a huge industry and there's so much great stuff going on there. But there's also some big gaps, and what you really dialed into there was more identity stuff and how you're reframing and retraining your brain, which is super cool, and we can geek out on that in a different day. Me when I'm stressed, I withdraw and I get quiet, and so when I can't get that, I get more stressed. So this weekend is such a gift to have the quiet, which is why in the beginning, when I shared, it's so almost unnerving.
Speaker 2:I think my nervous system is just trying to catch up and to just say you're safe. I basically created the exact environment that I needed and wanted. So now enjoy it and don't fight it so much. But I definitely withdraw and I get quiet. If I have to, I'll leave the house and go on a walk, but living in a city, that's not always the most relaxing of walks, unless I get to the lake, which is always very restorative. I'd love to tell you my journal and I do all these amazing things, but I really don't Sure. I think there's great opportunity there and I love your, go for a run.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, if you can get me to be a runner, I think the world really will end.
Speaker 4:Okay, for anybody who is listening, if you've ever gone for a run to like, just work through some stuff. It's a game changer, I'm telling you, elise, it's awful.
Speaker 2:I hear this a lot in my head. I'm a total runner and I'm part of that group and I total in them. Just I get out there and my yeah, this is, I need a purpose to run. Put a basketball in my hand. I got you.
Speaker 4:I'm not going to just run, to run, I'll walk.
Speaker 2:I'll walk, I'll be your shadow.
Speaker 4:That's interesting. You say that. Did you know that years ago I recorded an entire series of this podcast called Walk With Me series?
Speaker 2:I do remember that Is that where the fox came out.
Speaker 4:Oh gosh, I don't even remember. It was about that same time of life, yeah. But, it was so interesting because I did these really short, like eight minute-ish, like just topics, and I had so many people who started walking because of that series. It's so fun when I get to hear people. They're like you know, you're the one who started me on these like little walks, and now I walk and I listen to the podcast.
Speaker 4:I'm like, oh, that's really cool. So you're really cool. Well, thanks, I feel you like you are too. But okay, so I'm realizing that we've been bantering for a while. And I didn't realize that this would just when you suggested that we introduce ourselves and talk with people and and just let a friend just sit at the table with us, I was like what? Are we going to talk about. Clearly, we had no trouble.
Speaker 2:No, none, and I hope people felt like they were here with us. I mean, this is truly, if I call you or you call me, this is how our conversations tend to go.
Speaker 4:Yeah, all over the place, all over the place also good challenges Right.
Speaker 2:We all. We walk away with some good outcomes and a whole lot of love.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I love you girl, back at you.
Speaker 4:So thank you to anyone who was listening and indulging in our education on Mercury in retrograde.
Speaker 2:Absolutely Tell us how it affects you. I am really curious because it really does affect other everybody differently. But yeah, please leave a note.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we'd love to hear that.
Speaker 2:For sure.
Speaker 4:Anything else that's like weighing on your heart or on your mind that you'd like to talk about this week.
Speaker 2:I'm just so proud of you for jumping outside of your comfort zone in front of everyone.
Speaker 4:That's so cool, just riffing. This is great, thank you, thanks Back at you. You know, for those of you who are just joining us and maybe new to the podcast, lisa joined last week was her first one and although she she was very gracious when I first started this podcast because I was like, who will talk to me on a podcast? And she's like, I'll do it, I got you girl and so she was really generous years ago. Last week was the really the first one and it was really fun, but it was. I mean, it was a new step in that direction for both of us, so it really was out of our comfort zone.
Speaker 2:Both. Yeah, it last week was so wild A lot of things to process, and so I was definitely outside of my comfort zone last week.
Speaker 4:And you got a lot of feedback, which was pretty fun to hear about some of the people that have reached out to you and said different things. So, yeah, you know, if anybody is needing a little nudge on stepping out of their comfort zone, whatever that looks like, we will. We will step out of our comfort zone right there, with you Doing it in real time. I'm literally sweating.
Speaker 4:So I'm just going to say but seriously, I think that you know, when you step out of your comfort zone you start to wobble a little bit, but that's how you, that's where the growth happens.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. So it assumes that people listening do want to grow, right, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean I think we've had that conversation before as well. So, um, yeah, enjoy the journey, enjoy the growth and stick around with us. Stick around the table, we'd love to chat with you more.
Speaker 4:Yeah, lisa's going to be working on some stuff this weekend that she can't wait to roll up for you, that's right In all good time.
Speaker 2:No spoilers.
Speaker 4:No spoilers at all, all right. Well, on that note, lisa, thank you so much for this week's podcast to everyone who's listening. We are just so grateful for you and we hope that you go out and make it an incredible week. What do you think, lisa? Any last thoughts?
Speaker 2:No, go. Go, make your impact and be yourself. It's the best thing we can do.
Speaker 4:Yes, absolutely All right. Well, I like to close the podcast with a saying that I've said for a really long time. I've said this since the beginning, because the podcast used to be in a theme tied to a bar that I own. So I would say cheers to good karma. It's closing time and I have to tell you, lisa, because now that you're part of this, I feel like maybe we need to change a lot of those things. Sure Habits, but the closing time really quick.
Speaker 4:I play the song Closing Time for my kids at the end of the day when they have to pick up and like get ready for bed. And we were at a venue recently that was closing down and they played it in all three of my young children and the staff was like how do you guys know the song? They're like oh yeah, our mom makes us have closing time every day. So it was just kind of funny. I was like aw, it was a little proud moment, right? Yes, yes, I love that song, I love that. They know it. But I do feel like you know at some point, if we want a different saying, I'm open and for listeners, if you guys have any great ideas, I'm open. We're open to feedback and if you want to be part of shaping our journey and how this evolves, we want it to just unfold organically, absolutely, and have it impact you and be very useful for you and your life and your growth.
Speaker 4:So on that note for now. Cheers to good karma.
Speaker 1:It is closing time. Thank you for listening to this entire podcast. I hope this episode has left you feeling curious and inspired. This podcast is intended to create expansion in your life through unique stories and shared experiences, and if you enjoyed today's episode, I have a request. I'd like to ask you to share this podcast with your friends and family. I bet they'd enjoy it just as much as you have. And, if you found value, please share this on your social media outlets. That is good karma in action. My friends, all right, it is now closing time. Cheers to good karma and the power to choose joy. If you like this, tell your friends. Thanks for listening.