Paradigm U. Podcast
Paradigm U. Podcast
Episode 149: Building Freedom Through Discipline & Positive Habit Formation
Ever wondered how to break free from your negative habits and build more positive ones? You're not alone.
On this week's podcast, Lisa and April come together to discuss how to truly achieve FREEDOM through Discipline, Routine and positive Habit formation. Offering insights and practical steps to start fostering more productive routines and integration. We unpack the habit snowball, a fascinating concept that explains how habits, good or bad, can swiftly build momentum.
We dive deep into the surprising connection between discipline, routine, and freedom, while sharing useful tools such as Hypnosis for powerful, yet passive habit formation, and how it can rewire our brains to aid us in transforming our identity and adopting healthier habits. We discuss how asking ourselves what a healthy person does can shift our mindset and make the process of habit formation less daunting.
This week, we're going beyond just discussing habit formation. We're emphasizing the importance of surrounding ourselves with supportive people to achieve our habit-forming goals. We'll share personal experiences, tips, and the power of seemingly simple actions like packing your own lunches. Remember, stumbling and falling are part of the process. So join us as we navigate the thrilling journey of habit formation, and discover how to grant ourselves the grace to fall and rise again while we build freedom through intentional living.
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Speaker 2:You Podcast. Hello and welcome to the Paradigm you Podcast. My name is Lisa Sarnowski, co-host here, and in this week's episode we are tackling a huge topic of habit formation what to do and some practical steps that you can take to really start integrating those new routines this season with school starting. Listen in.
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Speaker 4:All right, it's a new week and we are talking about a really big topic this week, so welcome back to the Paradigm you Podcast. Today, lisa and I are talking about, I feel like, probably one of the bigger topics that is hitting me hard right now. It's the topic of habits. Lisa, what do you think about habit?
Speaker 2:Yeah, such a huge topic. I absolutely agree with you and you know I think we're going to try our best to really break down some simple, actionable steps today. And a good place to start. But we also know, as coaches, that this is really where people need the most support. So I anticipate doing a lot more podcasts on this topic, for sure. But what a great time of year to talk about this right. Especially as moms and entrepreneurs, business owners out there, this is a busy time of year.
Speaker 4:Yep, if you follow us on social media, you may have seen one of my recent posts talking about how I just hit some major resistance in the past week, and it is probably a lot of. It has to do with building new habits, all of my routines kind of getting out of whack and then really trying to assess like all right, what actually is our habits that are serving me and what things and habits are not serving me anymore. And you made it, you're here to tell the tale.
Speaker 2:I'm here to talk about it. That was a great post, by the way, and I know it got some good engagement.
Speaker 4:You know, it's important to be vulnerable, I think, when we're hitting those moments, because it's easy to look outward and be like, wow, everybody else has their life figured out. It felt important to be vulnerable because I was hitting a lot of roadblocks, I was hitting a lot of resistance, I was feeling really low, I wasn't taking care of myself, I had kind of spun out as far as my routines, my habits and the bad habits were all sneaking in and I realized in that moment of like, oh man, am I the only one who's struggling right now? And you know, I actually reached out to you and was like I'm losing my mind a little bit here and thankfully I have somebody to actually reach out to. I know you actually had. You had responded with what was that statistic? You had said, oh yeah it was a wild statistic.
Speaker 2:Let me pull it up here and I just want to say that when you reached out it was really validating, because everyone I know right now is in kind of what I like to refer to as that disintegration anxiety. It's that in between transitional phase of our summer routines and habits going by by and we're building into new school time habits, and this transitional time is more exhausting because we're rebuilding habits and rebuilding who we are and how our days are. But okay, I found the statistic approximately 46.5 million US adults that's 18% say they have either one person or nobody that they can confide in for personal support, and that's from a 21 associated press research and I found that really alarming.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it makes my heart a little sad. It makes me want to reach out to anyone who's listening to this and just say hey, if you are somebody who feels like you don't have that person to reach out to, stay with us Absolutely, we can definitely help facilitate some of that.
Speaker 2:And I was going to say and build the habit, like let's all work together to build the habit to reach out, because women were not really taught that habit and that skill set. As much as we want to right. There's this whole super woman complex that we still grew up with, that we're supposed to be able to do it all. And we look around and we see everybody's social and we see, you know, there's a lot of FOMO going on with what should I be doing this weekend with the kids and all this stuff and it's all just noise. But learning how to reach out when you actually need the support is such a great habit, I think, to start this school year with.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that was a helpful one for me, for sure, it definitely recalibrated me. But going back to habits, you know, lisa, I can tell you I spun out pretty hard. I did have that disintegration anxiety. But what I also realized, when I got quiet and I really started reflecting on, okay, what's actually happening here, I realized that a lot of not so great habits had snuck in.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I was like I'm just going to go snoball and you know, on some earlier podcasts listeners may have heard me talk about the habit snowball. And it can go both ways. It can be for good habits and you can just build that momentum and build that strength, but it also, I've realized, can go the other way. Oh yeah, full transparency. Mine was caffeine and I didn't realize how I'll use the word addicted I've become to caffeine, but realizing just how everything else had kind of spun out in my life because I'd gotten into this habit of oh, I get the kids going in the morning, I get into my office, I have my first, like you know, hit of caffeine in between nine and 10. And then I like 1130. It's like oh, where's the next one? And then it was oh gosh.
Speaker 2:You know you train your brain right, and we all do this. We train our brain at this point of our morning routine, when I'm getting the kids coat on, that's when I grab for my cup of coffee. It's a cue, and so rebuilding the habit really is all about taking back those trigger moments, those cues that you've already built other habits around to make them positive ones. So I'm curious how you've been retraining your habit of caffeine.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm so glad you asked. Well, so here's the thing what I've learned from doing the personal development work that I've been doing for as long as I can remember is it really comes down to a choice, and in choosing, how do I want to show up, who do I want to be and what are the steps that I need to take to change that. But equally, if it's not something that I agree with, that I'm like, yeah, I sign up for this, this is why I want to to be in, you know, my kids to know me, as Then I just have to eliminate that as part of my identity. So it was a quick. Like April just doesn't drink caffeine anymore, like it's a thing of the past.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you want to hear the funny part.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so I? I don't. I associate caffeine with like opening a can and drinking. I'm not a coffee drinker and so it's, you know, energy drinks. It's like any kind of like teas that you can like, buy and cans and love, like a bunch of different, like flavored teas in particular that are very heavily caffeinated and what so funny, I'm like all right, well, it's a thing of the past. April doesn't drink caffeine.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 4:And so I have an entire fridge stocked of all of my favorite drinks that I usually would go to and I'm like nope, we're just not doing that. Every time I would open in the fridge, I'm like nope, find something else, like replace that with something if I need to, yeah, but yeah. So I'm like I'm done with caffeine. Couple days into it, I'm like cocky. I'm like I'm four days in, like look how good I am at just when I decide to change a habit. And then I drink a chai tea. I was out with a group of people and at a coffee shop, didn't even occur to me that that would have caffeine in it. But you know, so interestingly, as soon as I drank it I felt awful. I had this intense headache and I was foggy for the rest of the day and it solidified like yep, that's a habit that needs to go away.
Speaker 4:So I also want to say that I've used hypnosis really really consistently to kick habits and kick and change things and rewire my brain on a regular basis. And so when I knew that I needed to change that habit, I went to a hypnosis audio track and I just started doing it. Some self discipline, hmm.
Speaker 2:Such a good one.
Speaker 4:Yep, I do it every single day and it just you know it. It's just part of my routine now, which I really appreciate.
Speaker 2:I love that, congratulations, and you know, and really just feeling that and being in the momentum of building those habits. You know, two things popped out to me as you were talking. The first is you mentioned discipline, and discipline is how we get freedom. You know, and that concept was really hard for me to accept. There's something about that word discipline, that I just pushed back on, so I had to. For a while I had to use the word commitment to just seem softer and like, okay, I can do that.
Speaker 2:But when you really think about it and take a step back, your ability to be disciplined with what you choose to consume In this case no caffeine is ultimately what's gonna get you the freedom to truly have the energy and be the person that you want to be. And so often we think that freedom comes with just doing anything we want. Right, you're almost kind of lazy, there's no routine and the reality is the more disciplined of a person you can become and learn how to be whether it's business or life or school you know school calendar is good golly, those are just between activities and school things is crazy times these days. The more disciplined you can be, the more freedom and time freedom in particular you can have not. And of course, financial freedom. But the other thing I completely forgot.
Speaker 4:I forgot. I agree, though. I totally agree with you. I think discipline is the path, and I actually you know I had reflected on that, you and when I called you and I'd hit my like, holy cow, I'm hitting some major resistance, I'm having a really rough day and a rough week. You actually said that discipline is the path to freedom, and that was what helped me to recalibrate and just say okay, what do I need to be disciplined in to make sure that I'm living the life that I want to live? So I'm grateful for that.
Speaker 2:Well, wonderful, I'm so glad you reached out. It's important for us to have these supportive conversation, and I do remember the second one, and that is when you were talking about self-hypnosis such a great tool, that does not get enough discussion with habit formation and behavior modification and let alone health and healing and wealth building and all the things that self-hypnosis can do. But from a habit formation standpoint, self-hypnosis is a wonderful tool. So maybe you could just, you know, talk a little bit more about how that operates so people, if they're listening, can really decide, like I want to try this because I'm having some problems really integrating some new habits into my life right now.
Speaker 4:Sure, yeah.
Speaker 4:So I actually became certified as a hypnotherapist earlier this year and I chose to do that because I wanted to learn more about why hypnosis was so powerful for me over the last few years with healing and with building new habits, with changing my thought processes, and what I learned was that through that process was that using hypnosis really is rewiring our brain and modifying our subconscious, is in a way where it can recalibrate our identity. If that makes sense and it's, I would say it's probably one of the most passive forms of therapy that you could do. It's as easy as it comes. Like I said, I just I pop in an audio track and I listen to it each day, so it's about 27 minutes long and I just commit to like deep breathing and listening to that and it's been quite easy for me. But hypnosis it really starts to get into. You know, subconscious reprogramming but also rewiring the brain and changing your neural pathways. So when we have a habit that, if you can imagine, that's like a road that's been like grooved in on a regular basis.
Speaker 4:It's been, you know, driven on for how long it's, you know, paved by this point.
Speaker 4:If it's a really strong habit and it could be most people think, oh, I just would need to like deconstruct that road if I want to change something, but when, in reality and I'm using that as an analogy, but if you're using that analogy, it wouldn't be necessarily using or deconstructing that road it would actually be like, all right, that road isn't serving us anymore. Let's actually build a new road and a new path alongside it to the direction and to the outcome that we actually want. So it's shifting your mindset and changing what is the identity of who you actually want to be and what is the action steps that would actually get you there, and so it's like abandoning that old road.
Speaker 4:So when I said, for example, that April just doesn't drink caffeine anymore, it's as easy as that, but you have to commit to okay. What are the other things that I can do to support that? Because me just saying that that's one thing, that's right, my identity verbally, yep, yeah. What are all of the action steps and how do I believe internally and deeply that that's true and using hypnosis can actually, I'd say, accelerate that process?
Speaker 2:Yeah for sure. What a great analogy with the road being paved in the pathway, and I want to talk about. A lot of times when we discuss habits and how to form new habits again, whether it's to have your home function more optimally or your business, or your career, or just managing everything that's going on in your life your health, your well-being, your finances a lot of times we talk about result based habits, right, and so a lot of times when people talk about how to build new habits, the conversation starts okay, well, what do you want? And let's say, for example, I want to lose weight, right. And then people go well, I want to in order to lose weight, I know I need to work out more, and so they go into the process. What I like to call the process habit stage, but rarely doesn't get to that identity level stage that you're talking about with self hypnosis, and this is the key with habit formation is to really take what you want and then ask yourself who do I need to be in order to, in this example, lose weight or in order to build wealth? What does that person, how do they operate, what is their personality, what do they believe and what is their worldview, really give yourself time to figure out the identity of who that person is, and then you start it's not fake it till you make it at all, but you start operating as that person and that, to me, is where the disintegration anxiety really starts kicking in, right? So I want to be someone who works out every day.
Speaker 2:Let's say Okay, great. And you have it in your schedule and you put it in your calendar. You put it in your planner, it's there, at eight o'clock every day I'm working out, or for some people it's five am. Those people I love you. Because I'm not a morning person. I don't know how you all do that. 8 am is way too early already for me but you have it in your calendar and then you look at it and you're going. But at this time of day I'm normally checking my email, or I'm normally making a pot of coffee, or I'm getting the kids on the bus, whatever it is, and you're fighting yourself because you're fighting that old identity, just as you were talking about with caffeine.
Speaker 2:And that's where self-hypnosis as a tool can really start to support and accelerate what a great word, april accelerate that identity shift, which is ultimately what will make your habit stick because you are your habits, that's it. We are simply our habits. And when we can take a step back and say, if I'm just my habits and not personalize it, we are who we are, we got here how we got here, but I want something to shift, then you have to go look at your habits and it's such a practical way to change your identity is to just be in the motion of doing something new and being disciplined around that new activity, to build a new habit. Am I making sense.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm totally following you. In fact, when you're talking about this, I don't even think it's just actions, I think it's behaviors too. I know for a fact that there are certain behaviors, that when I act a certain way, it's typically a habit at this point and I start to have that awareness of like oh, april response that way. Well, I don't really like that. What was me attitude at certain times?
Speaker 4:that comes out and so having that awareness, like you said. I think that's the key is the awareness and paying attention to. Is this something that I'm okay with? Is this?
Speaker 2:something.
Speaker 4:I'm willing to accept. And if I'm willing to accept this, what environment does that create?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, Beautifully said, but ultimately, this is such a great time of year to consider habits and our new routines. Right? Schools here and it's here through May or June, so it's not going anywhere for a while. What are our school time habits, what are these routines and how do we really build into those collectively as a team unit? Right? So now you're also working with your kids and a potential partner or other people that you're building these new routines with.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you know, when you're talking about thinking about who do I need to be? I have a fun story, a real quick tangent. But I have a friend who, as you had mentioned when weight loss, this is what popped into my head. He has been wanting to lose weight and struggled to lose weight for a really long time. He's tried all sorts of different things and here's the cool part and he started asking himself what does a healthy person do?
Speaker 4:That was all he did. He's like I'm just going to shift it Instead of beating myself up because I eat certain things or because I'm going to the gym and I'm doing these things, but this isn't working. Why aren't these things working? He decided to eliminate all of that and just start asking himself what does a healthy person do? And that was all that shifted. And now he's down well over 100 pounds.
Speaker 2:He's got so much more Good for him.
Speaker 4:Really fun. But his fun story that he's told me and shared with me and actually last spring I don't know if I told you he had invited me down to speak with his group and teach on the power of hypnosis and subconscious, because he's like this is just wild. I didn't even know that option. But he's like this is the fun story. Does a healthy person go and get their meal from a gas station? That was his big thing. He's like no, a healthy person probably isn't eating one to two meals a day from a gas station, and I found that really interesting. Of course, he's telling me this right in the season where we're running around and we're like quick grab, whatever you can eat, let's go kids. But I actually used that story with my kids. We did have those moments of chaos and short times to eat and then I also realized wait a sec, a healthy person would have planned out my schedule a little bit more to think through when are we eating and said no to things if it's going to go against healthy lifestyle.
Speaker 2:So prepacked a few things? Yeah, absolutely. And what you've tapped into there, what a great story. I love that and that's what I'm hoping all the listeners can take away is, whatever it is you're trying to build a habit around. Ask yourself, what would an organized person do right now, or what would a healthy person do right now, what would an abundant person do right now, whatever it is strong person, disciplined person, whatever you need in that moment to really shift your habits, really start drilling in and asking yourself that what a great, great example.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we actually we ask our kids this often. If they want to do something, we're like, okay, what would a wealthy person do? Or definitely not judging people's choices, but we're just trying to teach our kids what we think are important values. And I was asking my oldest the other day she wanted to wear just a huge sweatpants, like super baggy, like it was about to fall off of her these pants, and I said, what does somebody who's really confident and feels good about themselves and is really ready to show up and take on the world, what do they wear? Do they wear something that's going to weigh them down and make them feel like I just want to snuggle up on my couch because those outfits are super comfy, don't get me wrong, but I think there's a place for those.
Speaker 2:Sure.
Speaker 4:And not when we're, for example, going to church or we're going to school or going to a job interview. They think that there's some of those things that we can start teaching our kids. How do you want to show up in the world and who do you want to be?
Speaker 2:Absolutely, it. Really tapping into values is at the core as well with habits and identity, and they really just synergistically work together. So what a great example. I was trying to think if there was anything recently with our kids, but we haven't come up to anything. I'm sure something's going to explode at any moment, but today is not that day for us.
Speaker 4:Well, hold on a sec. I want to call you out on that. If you say I'm sure something's going to come up and explode, then that's a habit that it is in a weird way. At least, I'm doing this very affectionately as an example for all of our listeners. Yes, words are powerful.
Speaker 2:I just called it into my life. I totally hear that.
Speaker 4:What we call into what we speak, and what our thoughts are become our reality. Our thoughts are also a habit, yes, and if you can have that awareness, if you can catch that in no judgment, no shame, like, not like. Oh man, I just had that thought again. Come on, I do this too, you guys. But here's the thing If we can take those moments of awareness when we are at our strongest, then we can start to rebuild those habits. We can start to rebuild those thoughts that become our feelings, that become our vibration and our frequency, and that is how we shift and we change our environment.
Speaker 2:Yeah, indeed, absolutely.
Speaker 4:Oh, such a good podcast. I'm loving this, so good Habits.
Speaker 2:Habits. We are habits, for sure.
Speaker 4:Yes, and you know, I think one of the other pieces before we wrap up I think to talk about is deciding what. When you talked about values, what are the top things that you want to tackle and not trying to do them all at once?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:I really do think that this is something that if you try to do everything it can be immobilizing, it can feel overwhelming and you can really quickly easily, I think get to a place of like, oh, this is too much yeah.
Speaker 2:And that such sage advice. I mean when you're building a habit. I feel like as someone who has a very ambitious personality, it can be very challenging for me to just focus on one thing. What do you mean? I'm only going to focus on. I don't know. What am I focusing on right now? Like working out Is that really all I'm trying to shift? But to your point, it's snowball so quickly.
Speaker 2:If you start to become the person who does work out every single day, whatever that means I say workout, I mean movement for myself personally. But the next 90 days you're going to do something else and if you think of these in 90 day chunks, you're building for strong habits a year minimum. And the reality is, in my experience, in my clients experience, you end up building a lot more because you start to become the person that's able to do these more quickly, because your mindset does change and you are recalibrating things a lot quicker and you are just starting to really live your values. So my top value is health.
Speaker 2:So, going back to your example, the gentleman who lost all that weight there was a moment in time this summer where I thought why, why am I resigned to take my kids out to eat at a restaurant when we're up north, when that's sure, that's fun Occasionally, that's fine, and I can teach them how to eat healthy off of the menu or, equally, how to balance out their day overall. So we're going to eat out, so we're going to eat these other things at home early. There's other conversations to be had, but I realized if I just started packing lunches more, it wasn't to save money, it wasn't out of lack, it was because it was truly a value structure for me. And and that's where it starts to become fun with true habit formation is you really get to dig into your values and really live them and truly become the person you know, and your habits will reflect that.
Speaker 4:Thank you, yeah, I agree with that. I just have to do a shout out for you really quick, for all of our listeners, if you haven't seen Lisa's lunches that she packs, she tends this time of year. She posts pictures of how beautiful they are and actually you've posted throughout the year. But gosh, lisa, would you mind on the Paradigm U platform, would you mind posting some of these pictures? And this is the habit that you formed a long time ago and it's teaching your children how to choose healthy foods, and they're building those habits right alongside you, and I just think that that's a perfect example.
Speaker 2:Thanks, lady. Yeah, I'd be happy to share it's. What's hilarious for me is my lunch is, growing up were awful. It was a purely processed food child and in second grade I had the audacity to come home and ask my mom really, you packed me the same lunch again. And she just throws her hands up in the air and goes that's it, I'm done. You pack your lunch from now on. And we were in a, we were in a pro-Kiel school, so we we didn't have hot lunches, so we had to pack lunches, and so I've been packing lunches since second grade. Wow. But I have actually come to really really love them and, to my kids credit, they really do too, and I I cannot stress this enough I do with their lunches pretty, pretty regularly, what I refer to as deja food. It is basically the same food every day, but they love it so much more than even the hot lunches, so I'll take it.
Speaker 4:Pretty awesome. I think that's a huge win and I think that's an awesome habit. Not only that you've established for yourself, but now you're teaching your kids, yeah thanks, that's a pretty cool one, and that goes back to discipline.
Speaker 4:So I just want to kind of like circle us back and and mind all of us that the habit piece is important, but it's really choosing to, to lean into that discipline that's going to give us the freedom, because really those habits are going to create the routines and the routines that we choose to create, whether they're chaos and like running around like your head's on fire at all time or no, not, head hair pants, what's on fire? Pants on fire, I don't know, pants on fire yeah.
Speaker 4:Okay, thank you. You're running around like in that chaotic, like holy cow cycle, or you can choose to build a routine that's of ease, of peace and calm and joy. We can choose that, but it really does start with the habits and the discipline to commit to. What are those habits that we want to form? Yeah, and once we decide to do that, that really is living an intentional life like to its core.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, absolutely. And you know I would just. I would add that the way to make your life beautiful is just to choose it and to make it as fun and as easy as you want it to be right. And it's one thing. One thing I tell my kids often is you don't have to like it, you just need to do it. So when there's resistance coming up, like you don't have to like the actual act of building a new habit, but you know that you want it, you know you want what's on the other side of it. So just give yourself permission to do it. And just like your toddler toddled and fell before he, you know, crawled before he walked, before he ran, the same with building habits Give yourself permission to fall down, just get yourself back up and it'll be an easier action every single time.
Speaker 4:Yep and equally, I think, surrounding yourself with others who support that Absolutely. It's a really helpful piece. So listening to this podcast, for example, that's a great habit every week. So for all of you who download this right when it comes out every week, we are grateful for you and that cool habit that you have. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Love you listeners Absolutely.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and if you've been listening to this podcast and you are like, Okay, I have some habits that I know I need to either start or stop, I think right, because there's like two different directions we can go with habits I'd like to invite you to really assess what those look like. Lisa, what do you think about that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely Take a step back, assess what you actually want and then really decide for yourself who do I need to be, what is that identity? And start taking action to that identity for sure.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and we are going to be sending out some additional information on our weekly email. Is that true?
Speaker 2:That is true. Yes, we got some fun insider information we would love to share with you. So if you're listening here but you're not on our newsletter list, please hop on there, because we got something super exciting we are sharing only with our email subscribers next week.
Speaker 4:Yay, all right. Well, on that note, I hope all of our listeners have an incredible week. Lisa, do you have any last thoughts?
Speaker 2:You know, enjoy the habit formation. You are your habits. You got this, just go out there and do it and pick yourself up and do it again and again, and again, and then tell us how great these habits are.
Speaker 4:Yeah, whatever you've like eliminated like. If you're like eliminating caffeine, I'll be right there with you. My friend, she's your buddy, I am your non-caffeinated friend over here that's right All time. But if you're eliminating a habit or you're starting a habit, we want to support you with that and we'd love to hear how that's going for you. And if questions come up, go ahead and post those to our social media pages and we'd be happy to respond to you there. So, on that note, congratulations on getting back to school, getting back into a new season. For everybody who's got kids going back to school, and new habit formation. It's a new season Cheers. Yeah, all right, on that note, it is closing time. Cheers to good karma.
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